Craziest power tool accident?

topic posted Mon, June 28, 2004 - 3:24 AM by  Ass^trid
Mine -- being struck in the back of head (lower occipital) with a belt sander New Year's day.

Hard lesson as to why tools should not be left on ladders. I had been sitting on the roof sanding the eaves (it's easier to hold than lift), and set the sander atop the ladder. I climbed down, and left the ladder for a few minutes. When I returned to move the ladder, I had forgotten the belt sander was sitting on it at roof level. I was bending down, lifting the 4 legs, when -- WHAM! I was knocked out!

yup, blood...but I wasn't sure what had just happened! (memory thing). 8 stitches near the base of my skull. And a sheepish rendition of my violation of one of the basic rules of construction -- DON'T PUT ANYTHING ON THE TOP OF LADDERS! WHich my husband reminded me he had told me over and over...
  • Re: Craziest power tool accident?...chainsaw

    Sat, September 18, 2004 - 7:21 AM
    Does it have to be one that I suffered or saw? When working as a firefighter I had gone to three chainsaw accidents. In each situation, the chainsaw laid open the thigh...down to the bone, and there was no blood. In the first case, the guy walked 1/4 mile back to his house to call 911, we walked the 1/4 mile to check for blood loss, there wasn't any.

    Hard lesson for those guys? If the cainsaw is too heavy, stop cutting, set it on the ground, and walk away.
    • Re: Craziest power tool accident?...chainsaw

      Sun, September 26, 2004 - 9:00 PM
      That's really facinating! I think people usually get this kind of injury from "kickback" of the saw, instead of pure macho-ness. I wonder why no blood? Maybe cauterized? Does the chain get hot from friction? Interesting story.
      • Re: Craziest power tool accident?...chainsaw

        Sun, September 26, 2004 - 9:21 PM
        Ah cauterization is often functional for small venuole/arteriole/capilary stuff but not so reliable for major artery stuff. Instead I think the body had the appropriate constrict/contract reaction for shock. Often in smaller cases the blood vessels can have this vaso response but this was a larger case. I can only assume that it is due to the visual stimulus and shock response, and the ability of the brain to react to serious injury.

        Really, I don't think the chain could be that hot or that accurate to cauterize the needed blood vessels.

        Still it was a cool lesson in anatomy. Not too many people get the privelege to see all of the quadriceps muscles in their layers during a living state. I've also seen living brain tissue in a conscious, alert, and oriented indvidual. Maybe that's TMI.
        • Re: Craziest power tool accident?...chainsaw

          Sun, September 26, 2004 - 9:56 PM
          well it is indeed possible to saw down on the femur without hitting the major arteries (aorta, but more likely iliac) located around the superficial femoral area, commonly reffered to as the inner thigh or the femoral and popliteal located on the anterior and posterior sides along the upper and lower femur. On the anterior portion of the femur it is entirly possible to hit nothing but minor arteries and veins. so I assume the cut was to the anterior portion of the femur superior to the knee.

          and to keep this relevant always wear your kevlar chaps and make sure your kickback guard is adjusted and working properly. a chainsaw can dessimate a leg (or other flesh) in less than 2 seconds....also to answer the question about carterizing the wound with the chain, not very likely the destructive force of the chain would quickly defeat any benefit that could be gained from carterization, but the chain would need to be red hot and not in motion to be effective.
          • Re: Craziest power tool accident?...chainsaw

            Sun, September 26, 2004 - 10:19 PM
            Ah, thanks doc. Having been in the Department of Forestry (chainsaw experience) and also having emergency medical experience as well as an anatomical/health-realted degree(BSK), I am fully aware of those things. Given that the descending aorta does not travel down the legs, and that the iliac artery transitions to the femoral artery (along the femoral cavity), and that the cut was on the anterior side of the distal end of the thigh, yes there of not threat of ilio- or aortal cut. There are other arteries which run along the femur that can be affected. They would not kill you as quickly as an abdominal aortic aneurism, but still can shed some blood. There was not a drop pf blood evident though.

            Correct me if I am wrong, but all of the guards that I have seen on chainsaws are located on the top, and the bottom of the guide bar has no guard. This is where each victim had received the cut, either from cutting upward and letting the saw drop or cuting downward and not being prepared for the subsequent release after the saw cleared the wood.
            • Re: Craziest power tool accident?...chainsaw

              Mon, September 27, 2004 - 1:31 AM
              I concur with your statements about the anatomy, however as you know everybody is constructed slightly different and their are possibly other extenuating circumstances that contributed to the lack of blood. Mainly where exactly the point of trauma occured.
              But also it may have been cold outside or perhaps he was wearing restrictive clothing. I'm not going to second guess. He is most fortunate to be well and hopefully still in possession of his femur.

              yes you are correct the kickback guard is located on the topside of the bar. the purpose of the mechanism is in the event that you are using improper technique or cutting with the forbidden areas of the bar that as the bar rises your hand (which is hopefully in the correct position) will trigger the guard to apply a spring brake to the inner workings of the clutch to *hopefully* instantaneously stop the chain from going around the bar. [which is why you suppossed to test it everytime you start the saw]

              The safety device that you are suppossed to wear to protect your lower extremities would be what are called Kevlar Chaps or sawyer chaps. Pictured here: www.elvex.com/chain-saw-protection.htm

              When I worked for FSS (wildland) and NPS (forestry management} we where required to wear the chaps as well as a bump cap with protective muffs and metal mesh face shield and safety glasses. Being able to fell a tree in under a minute I always wore my safety. When the bad stuff happens it always does b4 you can react.

              of course now I use big 6 cubic inch Husqvarna saw with nice sharp diamond blade on it (no Neanderthalian grunt needed). cuts through everything except for thick concrete. very intense gyroscopic force when it gets up to speed. -cheers+
              • Re: Craziest power tool accident?...chainsaw

                Mon, September 27, 2004 - 8:41 AM
                Okay so first, we should consider that the discussion is getting tangential.

                Yes, there can be some vairability in the microcosm of anatomy, but with few exceptions on the macroscopic level, blood vessels are laid out the same.

                Having an understanding of the kinematics/mechanics/anatomy of trauma I'm aware of the range of affect that weather, constrictive clothing, and other elements can have on a gash.

                From the original post that I had given I had said that there were three cases. Two of those cases were in very hot weather, one in mildly cold weather. In the first case, the guy was wearing loose fitting jeans, the second overalls, the third was shorts.

                In two of the cases they were cutting pine, one oak. Really there is little observation that can be made here that would not be fallacious since we do not have the people or the environment at our disposal.

                Besides, the tribe is chicks and power tools; what's your craziest power tool accident dude?
  • Re: Craziest power tool accident?

    Sat, September 18, 2004 - 12:24 PM
    I was usuing my little Makita to put together some small plywood boxes, and was holding the screw as I was getting it started.....the makita slipped and the head dug into the bed of my thumbnail...it was rather unsightly, the nail got all messed up, and three years later, it's still a bit soft on that side.....but it was fun showing all the boys my wound >grin<
    • Re: Craziest power tool accident?

      Sun, September 19, 2004 - 5:32 PM
      technically a hand tool and not a power tool...

      I was using a bow saw to cut up some manzanita for firewood/kindling, and you have to understand that manzanita is some tough wood. The saw blade popped up out of the cut and landed back down on my hand. I still have a dashed line of a scar across my hand. Moral: use a saw buck when sawing firewood.
  • Re: Craziest power tool accident?

    Sun, January 23, 2005 - 8:37 AM
    didnt happen to me, but did to a girl in my highschool..

    we had a set construction class, we built the sets for the plays.. stupid girl didnt tie her long hair back before using the table saw.. yes, you know what happened next.. big chunk of hair got caught in the blade, and instead of turning the table OFF immeadatly, she reared back, and a big ole chunk of hair and scalp came off and landed on the table.. EEK
    • Re: Craziest power tool accident?

      Tue, January 25, 2005 - 9:53 AM
      yuck.

      I gassed up the PTO on a post hole digger (now THAT is a power tool!) a bit too much so that the post I was trying to plant flew out of my hands and cold cocked my best friend in the head. She fell down and I cried. It was kinda funny after we both got over the shock. no *real* damage done. PTO = the real power.
  • Re: Craziest power tool accident?

    Thu, March 30, 2006 - 11:30 PM
    My co-worker at a machine shop got her arm sucked into a drill press and turned into black and blue hamburger covered in a shredded layer of greasy long johns. Mmmmmmmm.......
    careful.
  • Re: Craziest power tool accident?

    Fri, March 31, 2006 - 6:06 PM
    Once, in a fit of intelligence, I knocked myself in the head with a hammer while trying to remove an industrial staple from a fence. Right after that, I discovered the joy of Vice Grips & cat's paws. Not really a "power tool" unless human-powered tools count.

    As far as real power tools go, I've mostly seen the aftermath of other peoples' accidents...legs cut up by jigsaws, underarms (and hair) leaned too close to table saws, and of course the inevitible slag-in-the-pants-dance-into-something-heavy that using a cutting torch brings from time to time.

    OH crap -- how could I forget my "favorite" experience with a long series drill bit?! I was on a job where the manager was really bad about providing equipment. I was living on a sailboat and didn't have my own tools with me, so I ended up using his, including a horrible pair of goggles that were not only scratched all to hell, but they kept fogging up on me as well. Anyway, I'm putting in the railing to a deck 3 stories up in Twin Peaks, SF when my goggles went foggy on me and I couldn't see the drill point I'd drawn. I put my goggles up on my forehead for a moment, got my point...and then forgot to put the goggles down over my eyes before I started drilling. YEEEEOOOOOW! Of course I got a huge chunk of crap in my eye.

    Because I was alone by the time it really started to bother me, I drove myself to the hospital, yowling all the way. When I got to the ER, I just flat-out demanded to see someone, which happened after I endured a couple of minutes of hospital paperwork. Lucky for me, it wasn't Saturday night. They gave me eye drops and vicodin, so at least the night wasn't a total loss. On the upside, I've never forgotten my goggles since.

    As a heavy equipment operator, I get to see all kinds of weird things, like people backing into cars, rigging and each other. Luckily, I'm pretty conscious of what I'm doing, and all of my equipment "incidents" have been on purpose. If you've never picked up your manager's car with a 36,000 lb forklift and placed it on top of a ship-to-sea container for fun, I gotta tell ya, it's a great way to let off some steam.
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    Re: Craziest power tool accident?

    Sun, September 24, 2006 - 11:41 PM
    Working on a bar room after hours with a guy. Starting @ 3AM. He was using a belt sander . I was laying floor tile. I hear a BIG BANG. Look up to see all 220 Lbs. of biker Dude OUT COLD. His pony tail( which reached his butt),wound around the belt sander. Lucky for him when it knocked him out it came unplugged before it sanded his face off. It was a blonde dude moment!!!
    • Re: Craziest power tool accident?

      Fri, March 23, 2007 - 6:40 AM
      While working as a roofer one summer, it had gotten really hot out and i was down to kaki pants and a tank with tool belt, saftey googles and work boots. there were 2 other(shall we say rooofers) up there(guys). Here I am minding my own business and getting my job done. Next thing you know these to guys are screaming away. I stop nailing and look over, the two guys were so intent on trying to look down my tank top while I was nailing, that they had used there own nail guns to nail thier feet to the roof. Both idiots were wairing sneakers.

      The only accident with a power tool that I have done myself is, while using my scroll saw, I had accidently cut off an inch of fingernail. But that was no big deal since I grow 2 inch nails.
      But I was sure mad that I had to cut the other nails down so it wouldnt look so weird.
  • Re: Craziest power tool accident?

    Wed, December 5, 2007 - 11:40 AM
    The day I learned that feed direction is very important with rotating tools:
    was in a woodshop class, using a shaper (similar to a router) to cut stiles for a cabinet door. Fed the stile into the shaper from the wrong direction, and had the 3'ft long piece of wood ripped out of my hands and rocketed across the shop at, oh, something like 60 mph. It flew clear across the shop and knocked a hole in the wall. Just very VERY glad that there wasn't something like someone else's head in between the shaper and the wall.

    Coming from someone who has to practice being anal-retentive, there are some times and places where you just can't be TOO anal about how you do things...

    ~C

    PS-- is there a hyphen in anal-retentive??
    • Re: Craziest power tool accident?

      Tue, April 15, 2008 - 11:16 PM
      other than the hammer-to-the-face and screw-bit-fingernail, I had my hair sucked into a Salamander heater (horizontal mega-BTU dragon) but luckily I'd just turned it off and the fan was slowing down, about a foot of dreds got sucked..., well, wrapped in. Good thing I've got three-foot long hair... won't do THAT again!

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